Friday, November 18, 2011

"Go Hard or Go Home" - Facts vs Fiction



Hard evidence. That is what one needs to honestly claim to be Cherokee or of Cherokee descent. I didn't make the rules of genealogy. I didn't make the rules of citizenship for the three federally recognized tribes either. But I follow those rules and I respect those rules.

Those who disagree with my following those rules tend to miss the point. They will say, "She doesn't decide who is Cherokee," without addressing the fact that I only follow Cherokee law on who is or is not Cherokee. I don't decide who is an American either, but I quote the law on that as well and no one seems to have a problem with it, so why is quoting the laws on who is or is not Cherokee any different?

A lot of people miss the point on the genealogical issues as well. People who claim to be Cherokee or Cherokee descent with no hard proof think I, or others, who speak out against such things, are evil or mean or "from the dark side." Why? We are simply following the Standards for Sound Genealogical Research. Some I would like to point out are:

  • test every hypothesis or theory against credible evidence, and reject those that are not supported by the evidence;
  • seek original records, or reproduced images of them when there is reasonable assurance they have not been altered, as the basis for their research conclusions;
  • state something as a fact only when it is supported by convincing evidence, and identify the evidence when communicating the fact to others;
  • limit with words like "probable" or "possible" any statement that is based on less than convincing evidence, and state the reasons for concluding that it is probable or possible;
  • avoid misleading other researchers by either intentionally or carelessly distributing or publishing inaccurate information;
Notice how these mention using original records; stating something only as fact when there is supporting evidence; limiting words like "possible"; and  avoid misleading others by carelessly distributing inaccurate information? I didn't make those rules. Those came from the National Genealogical Society.

"A lineage, pedigree, or genealogy is a series of related assertions proved by a complex web of interwoven evidence." It is NOT a family story passed down that has no credible supporting evidence. Rejected Eastern Cherokee applications (Miller applications); family pictures; and the word of others who say they have heard the same thing are NOT credible supporting evidence. Taking a guess or jumping all over the map to make things fit the way one wants is not a web of interwoven evidence.

An example:

"My name is LouLou. I know someone named LouAnne. I must be her cousin. Wait, LouLou sounds a lot like Lucy. I'm related to Lucille Ball. And Ball must be the same thing as Round. Which looks like Ronald, so I bet that means Ronald Regan, so I am related to him too!" 

As absurd as that example sounds, it happens. Lordy sakes, believe me, it happens! People who have no understanding of the Cherokee language or naming conventions jump in and start looking for names that "might" match, so they assume. They try online translators which offer nothing in the area of genealogy, but they think it does so they take that translation and run with it and end up making a mess of things just like the scenario above. 

Genealogical evidence is found in good, hard sources, not in one's imagination. Documents that can be sound, supporting evidence are military service records, pension applications, land records, wills, immigration records, census records, etc...If one is Cherokee, there are also other numerous records and rolls that can be used such as the censuses of the Cherokee Nation taken in 1835, 1869, 1880, 1883, 1886, 1890, 1894, 1896; the numerous rolls including but not limited to the Reservation Roll, the Emigration Roll;  the Old Settler Rolls; and the Dawes, Miller, Siler, Drennen, Chapman and Baker rolls. There are also records of the claims made by Cherokees for property, transportation and subsistence. This is not a complete list of everything available on the Cherokees, but is a good starting place. 

So, if you have a family story of Cherokee ancestry, yet your ancestor is found on census, land, and military records as being born in the late 1700s in South Carolina; and in the early 1800s, moving from county to county in Georgia shortly after those counties were formed from land ceded by the Creek Nation, and then finally moving into a county in Georgia that was formed after the Cherokees were forcibly removed, the records do not show your ancestor was Cherokee, but instead, a free white person who only moved onto Cherokee land AFTER the Cherokees left it. To ignore such sources, while clinging to a rejected Eastern Cherokee application and speculating on what might or might not have happened, means one is carelessly and haphazardly attempting to rewrite their family history. To publish or distribute their conclusions and call it genealogy is irresponsible.  

Anyone can make a mistake in genealogy. Even the best of the best have probably made them. I don't fault anyone for making a mistake, but I do take issue with those who would ignore all the good, hard evidence, and instead, invent a genealogy they want. If you want to do your family genealogy, then do it. But do it based on real documentation and hard evidence. Wouldn't it be embarrassing if you wrote an entire family history that you called a genealogy and then someone else came along behind you and proved everything you wrote was wrong using many primary sources while you used none? 

Word of advice -  There are plenty of records out there to either prove or disprove Cherokee ancestry. Use them. Not my standards, but instead, the standards of the genealogical community. If you want to write fiction, then do it, but at least call it fiction. If you want to do your genealogy, then do that too, but don't guess, assume or invent anything. "Test every hypothesis or theory against credible evidence, and reject those that are not supported by the evidence." Basically -- either go hard (evidence) or go home (don't bother.)

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter

copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Thursday, November 17, 2011

Thriller Thursday - "Whiskey - Pistol - Death"


The following article appeared in The Cherokee Advocate; Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory; Friday, May 23, 1884; p.2. Wow! David Tadpole was my 3X great grandpa. Though apparently badly wounded, he did survive and lived another 16-17 years. An interesting note though, he had a stepson named Groundhog. Was he shot by his own stepson? It might take some digging, but I am going to try to find out. To make matters even more interesting is the fact John Moore is connected to me through another of my Cherokee lines. He was married to my 4X great grandma's sister.

Stay tuned for some interesting follow ups and for the trial of Groundhog, the man who killed John Moore and shot my great great great grandpa!
 

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter
copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Wednesday, November 16, 2011

Great Story with Awesome Research! Worth a Read!

While reading some other blogs today, I found a great story I think everyone who reads and enjoys this blog should read. Not only does it have the great term "value added history" in it, it also explains how oral stories and legends can be far from the truth when it comes to Cherokees and their history. It also shows how much information is actually available, even on the Cherokees before removal. People rarely believe me when I say there are oodles of records on the Cherokees but I think you will see in the story, it's true. An awful lot of info is out there. You just have to know where to look. So, please take a moment to go read "Chief Soap":Fact vs. Fiction at The Trail of the Trail. I promise you, this is worth a read!


Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter


copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Friday, November 11, 2011

News Article about My Grandpa, Aaron Carey, and His Service

In honor of Veteran's Day, I am sharing a news article about my grandpa, Aaron Carey, and his service to our country. The one thing that was important to him was that people never forget the sacrifice our soldiers make so that we can be free.



(Click on the article to enlarge.)
(Source - The Wagoner Tribune; Wagoner, Oklahoma; December 2, 1999; p. 5A, 13A.)

Thank you to all the Veterans who have served to keep our country free. Your sacrifices are not forgotten.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.




copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tuesday, November 8, 2011

Top 5 - Worst "Cherokee" Songs

 5. Indian Reservation - Paul Revere and the Raiders


Reason - Historically inaccurate. The Cherokees never lived on a reservation. They lived in Cherokee Nation, a nation unto itself. Also, I am not fond of the line, "But maybe some day when they've learned, the Cherokee Nation will return." Return to what? We haven't gone anywhere.

4. Indian Outlaw - Tim McGraw


Reason - Stereotypical. Maybe Tim lives in wig wams or teepees, but the Cherokees never did. And, the last I heard of a Cherokee medicine man dragging someone around by their headband? Well, er, uh, never. The song is so full of stereotypes, it makes me wonder...is Tim getting even with the Cherokees for killing his ancestor, Isaac Chrisman?

3. Halfbreed - Cher


Reason - Oh my gourd! Where do I even start? First of all, Cher isn't Cherokee, but this song makes people think she is. And then "My life instead has been from man to man, but I can't run away from what I am. Halfbreed!" Ok, little lady. If your life has been from man to man, it isn't because you are mixed blood Cherokee! It's because you need to go put some dang clothes on! Now excuse me while I go change into my bejeweled bone halter top and stripper thong loin cloth and top it off with my floor length war bonnet! (wink)


2. Cherokee - Europe


Reason - It's just gross! Honestly, this video is just disgusting and gross. Spaghetti western images, a woman with paint on her face, and southwestern terrain.  Hmmm..........nope, nothing Cherokee about any of that. And, the line, "Cherokee, marching on the trail of tears......." over and over. Ugh..........

1. Cherokee Morning Song - Walela


Reason - Walela aren't Cherokee, nor is the song in Cherokee. This is just pure theft of culture and identity. Sorry to those of you who purchased their music believing this is real Cherokee music by real Cherokee women, but you got ripped off. Neither is true, yet because they misrepresent themselves and their music as such, they get my vote for the worst of the worst.

Ok, so you have it. My top five choices for worst song to mention Cherokee either in the title or words of the song. Now it is your turn to vote! Click below to vote for one of the songs above for the worst of the worst. I will run the poll for thirty days and then post the winner for our Readers Choice Award! Also feel free to leave a comment below telling me why you agree, disagree or if you think other songs should be added to the list and why.

Update - The poll has closed, but it was a very close race that ended up in a tie between Indian Outlaw (Tim McGraw) and Cherokee Morning Song (Walela) "winning" as worst song, each getting 30% of the vote. Coming in a close second was Halfbreed (Cher) with 27% of the vote.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter
copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

From My Inbox

This is an excerpt from a message that arrived in my inbox yesterday.

"I enjoy and learn from your blog and respect your high standards for genealogy research. However, I have not enjoyed your forays into the unpleasant Cherokee election and beating up on the misguided person who wants James Keith to be Crane Eater."

I think we have a few important points made here. The first, and most important, falls in the area of my audience. I primarily write for the Cherokee people. Though the election was a nightmare and dragged out entirely too long, it was something the Cherokee people were extremely interested in reading about. They wanted to know what was going on each step of the way. There was a lot of confusion and people needed information. To my non-Cherokee readers, thank you for bearing with us during the difficult and stressful time and allowing me to use the blog as a place to share that needed information.

Another important point made is about the "misguided person who wants James Keith to be Crane Eater." Not only does that show everyone except this "misguided" person understands that James Keith is NOT Crane Eater, it also shows how tired one can grow of wannabeism and how serious of an issue it truly is.

Yes, we all know James Keith was not Crane Eater. WE ALL KNOW THIS! But guess what? The descendant of this man refuses to accept it. I see it. You see it. We ALL see it. Unfortunately, she refuses to accept it. This situation has been a text book example of what a wannabe is and how they behave when we, Cherokees, refuse to allow them to steal our identity and attempt to re-write our history. Not only do they continue to cling to their fabricated family history, they try to discredit us and do everything in their power to make us look like the bad guy in the situation. It is rare that such an opportunity would arise where I can show my non-Cherokee readers what we Cherokees go through every single day. Yes! Every single day, there is someone, somewhere who will tell us they are Cherokee, just like us. The magnitude of this culture and identity theft is enormous and it is never ending.

Because it is never ending, I think it is important to capitalize on this opportunity with Crane Eater to show how a fake can become so obsessed with being Cherokee (and in this case, proving Cherokees wrong) that they refuse to see the truth, no matter who shows it to them and no matter how many different ways it is shown to them. When readers start to email me that they are growing tired of it, then I know I have accomplished my goal -- to show non-Cherokees how tiresome this wannabe thing gets for us. Can you now see how a "misguided" person won't give up the claim of being Cherokee, even when they aren't? Can you see how they lie and attack and try to discredit us? This is EXACTLY what wannabes do when they are not allowed to continue with their fake claims. This is EXACTLY what wannabes do when REAL Cherokees say, "No more."

This blogger has tried to discredit me, my friends and anyone else that speaks out against her claims. Sad, but typical wannabe behavior. This blogger has numerous comments on her blog that support her and post nasty things about me and other Cherokees, but most are made by "anonymous." To be honest, most of us believe she is leaving comments for herself, since anyone with any real knowledge of genealogy would not support what she what she writes in her blog. I mean, think about it. An anonymous comment means nothing. Unless a person is willing to sign their real name to it, there is no substance to it. Just one of the reasons I have stopped allowing anonymous comments on this blog. If you have something to say, say it, but at least have the backbone to also sign your name to it. 

So yes, dear readers, I understand people are sick of reading, hearing, learning about Crane Eater. I get it. I really do. But it is important to see, to understand, this problem the Cherokee people have with fakes who desperately want to be one of us. Even when there is no real proof, they will often create something to show what they want. It is absurd. Our history is our history and no one has the right to try to re-write it just so they can be a part of it. Either you are or you aren't. It is that simple. Yes, this misguided person wants her ancestor, James Keith, to be the Cherokee man, Crane Eater, but he isn't. I see it. You see it. Everyone sees it, except her. Do you think she will ever accept the truth? Hard to say. I guess it will come down to the difference between a person searching for their true history and a wannabe. Does she want to know the truth, no matter what it is, or does she wannabe a Cherokee? You tell me.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thanks for reading.

The Granddaughter



copyright 2011, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB