Wednesday, November 25, 2009

Wordless Wednesday - Mazie OK Ball Team

The team had both white and Cherokee players.
1950-ish

Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Tombstone Tuesday - George Pumpkin

George Pumpkin was born in 1839, in Goingsnake District, Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory, the son of Pumpkinpile and Nancy Vann. In 1859, he married Peggy Dennis, a Cherokee Nation citizen. He worked on his father's farm until he was twenty four and then began farming for himself.

When the Civil War started, he volunteered to protect Chief John Ross. After learning he would have to fight for the South, he, along with his friend,
David Tadpole , turned and went home, refusing to fight against the treaty the Cherokee had with the United States. On July 11, 1862, he enlisted with the third regiment of the Indian Home Guard under Colonel Phelps and served for three years on the side of the Union, mustering out on May 3, 1864.

Though disabled during the war, he was still able to manage a 30 acre farm afterward.
He was educated in the public schools of the Cherokee Nation and could speak and read both Cherokee and English. He often served as an interpreter for Cherokee Nation citizens who could not speak English. He was listed on the Final Dawes Roll as Cherokee by blood as a full blood.

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Monday, November 23, 2009

Kreativ Blogger


I am so excited! I was choosen by Missy Corley at Bayside Blog for the Kreativ Blogger Award. Thank you for selecting me, Missy!

The person who receives this award must list 7 things about his/herself and name 7 other bloggers to receive the award.

Here are 7 things about me -
  1. I am the mother of four children - 3 boys and 1 girl.
  2. I am addicted to Cherokee genealogy and Cherokee history research.
  3. I have a degree in computer programming.
  4. I love following my Native and Genealogy Twitter lists.
  5. I love to sew "pretties" for my home.
  6. I am the "mommy" to two dogs - Shadow and Sugar.
  7. I love to go "graving" and am a contributor on Find A Grave.

Here are my 7 selections for the Kreativ Blogger award -
  1. Family Archive
  2. Relatively Curious About Genealogy
  3. Original Pechanga's Blog
  4. Kinfolk News
  5. The Virtual Dime Museum
  6. Angry Chicken
  7. Fat Lady's Diary

Monday Madness - Understanding the Final Dawes Roll Index

Though somewhat outside the definition of Monday Madness, I hope all will bear with me because this is an EXTREMELY important topic in Cherokee Genealogy and the fact that people do not attempt to learn a little background information before jumping to conclusions drives me "mad". As I stated in my last post, often people have heard a family story of Cherokee lineage so they go directly to the Dawes Roll index and find a name that matches the name of one of their ancestors and they wrongly assume that is their ancestor. I think I will be doing a disservice to all searching for Cherokee ancestry if I do not address this in more detail.

I would like to elaborate on the online index and what all those letters and numbers mean since it seems most people don't understand them. Because this index is available, people use it to search for their ancestor. They find a name that matches and decide that is their ancestor. Then they claim they are Cherokee because their ancestor was. The problem with this is, often times, they will grab a name from the index that has D, R, P, O, FRR, FD as the "Type" or IW as the "Blood" or NR as the "Roll" number. These "letters" mean the person with that name was either not Cherokee or not registered. Often, these types do not have a number listed in the "Roll" column of the index.

D = Doubtful or denied
R = Rejected

P = Parent (parent of the applicant, may or may not have filed their own application)
O = Owner (former owner of the applicant, may or may not have filed their own application)
FRR = Freedman, rejected
FD = Freedman, doubtful or denied
IW = Intermarried white (NOT Indian/White!!!)
NR = Not registered

The "Types" to look for are BB, F, M and FM with a number listed in the "Roll" column if you want to find a Cherokee citizen at the time of the Dawes Roll. It is important to find both the "Type" and a "Roll" number in combination.

BB = By blood
F = Freedmen (former slaves of the Cherokee)
M = Minor, by blood
FM = Freedmen, minor

Seeing NR in the "Roll" column can mean a variety of things. It could mean the person who made the application was rejected or it could mean the person died before the Final Roll. Looking at the "Type" along with the "NR" should give you a clue. If the "Type" is any of the following - D, R, P, O, FRR, or FD, then the person was determined not to be Cherokee. If the "Type" is BB, then the person probably died before the Final Roll.


Finding IW listed as the "Blood" means the person was an Intermarried White. I have heard people often misinterpret this to mean an Indian/White combination of blood, but this is not correct. Some people listed as IW were determined to be legal citizens of the Cherokee Nation and met the requirements to be listed on the Dawes Roll and others did not. Once again, the easiest way to tell if the person was actually listed on the Dawes Roll is to look at both the "Type" and "Roll" columns. There should be a number in the "Roll" column of the index and often they are listed in the "Type" column as BB.

In light of all this information, I think it is important that family genealogists understand that, even though you can get a lot of information from the online index for the Dawes Roll if you read it correctly, you still MUST use the Dawes application made by the person combined with other evidence to verify the name belongs to your ancestor. Without careful research of a variety of sources, there is no way to be sure the name you found on the index of the Dawes Roll is actually your ancestor.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter
copyright 2009, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Sunday, November 22, 2009

Are You Sure That is Your Ancestor?

Recently I have received quite a few messages from people who say they are Cherokee and that they found their ancestor or ancestors on the Dawes Roll. So far, none of these people were right in their assumptions. These people made the very common mistake of assuming a person with the same name as their ancestor was their ancestor.

Finding a name on a Dawes Roll index listing that matches the name of your ancestor does not mean much. Too many people have heard a story they were Cherokee so they go straight to the Dawes Roll index and search for any name that matches one of their ancestors. This is the wrong way to go about Cherokee research.

First, you must know when your ancestor was born and when they died. If they died in 1885, then they will NOT be listed on the Dawes Roll. If they were born in 1922, they will NOT be listed on the Dawes Roll. A person MUST have been alive in 1902 at the time the Dawes Roll closed in order to be found on it. People listed on the Dawes Roll must have been living in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory. If your ancestor was living anywhere else, then they are not on the Dawes Roll.

There are some minors (children of Dawes enrollees) who were born after 1902 who are listed on the Dawes Roll, but their parents are listed on the Dawes Roll and the family of these children had been living in the Cherokee Nation for years and years before the Dawes Roll. So, if your ancestor was born in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory in 1905, but his parents were born in Illinois in 1880 and the grandparents were born in Pennsylvania, your ancestor will not be found on the Dawes Roll. The fact that your ancestor was born in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory means nothing in terms of Cherokee ancestry. At that time, the whites in Indian Territory far outnumbered the Indians.

After reviewing everything about your ancestor, if you learn they were born in Cherokee Nation and living in 1902 and their family had always been in Cherokee Nation, then, and only then, you may want to review an online index to see if your ancestor is listed on the Dawes Roll. IF you find a name that matches that of your ancestor, then you will need to obtain the application the person listed on the Dawes Roll made. That should give you enough information to determine whether the person listed on the Dawes Roll is really your ancestor. Happy hunting.

Those are my thoughts for the day.
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter
copyright 2009, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Stacy Leeds for Cherokee Nation Chief 2011...

The Cherokee people need Stacy Leeds to run for chief of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma in the next election. Let's show her how much support she really has and change her mind!

Join the Facebook group - Stacy Leeds for Cherokee Nation Chief 2011...

If you have any doubt about the Cherokee Nation needing a change, watch the following videos.






Tombstone Tuesday - My Other Grandma Polly


Polly Boots, my great great grandma, was born in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory, in 1851, the daughter of Boots and Lee-say (AKA Lizzie Scott). Polly married Hiram Smith and they were the parents of Sam, Tom, and Ellen. Polly was also the mother of Susie Whitewater, Joe McKay, Jim Pickup, Dick Carey and Jim Bean.

Polly lived most of her life in the Lost City area, near where Hulbert, Oklahoma is located today. Polly only spoke Cherokee and was very traditional. Though she opposed the breaking up of Cherokee land and refused to make an application for the Dawes Roll, she was listed on it anyway, as all the others who opposed it were. She was also listed on the Guion Miller roll and all the other Cherokee rolls that were taken during her lifetime.

She was most likely buried in one of the old Indian cemeteries near her home. At that time, many Indians marked their graves with rocks. Each family had a common rock so family members could more easily be identified in the burial ground. Because Polly's grave is not marked in the conventional American manner, it is unlikely the exact location of her grave will ever be known. The picture above is just an example of what her grave might look like. It is not her actual tombstone or grave. Even though I don't know where she is buried, I know that she lived and I will never let her be forgotten.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter
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Monday, November 16, 2009

Monday Madness - The Cherokee Carey Surname

Cherokee families did not always have surnames, so figuring out why they sometimes have a particular surname can be a rather daunting task. The origin of my Cherokee family surname Carey is no different. Though many times, a white man would marry into the tribe and his descendants would take his surname, this does not seem to be the case with my Careys. I am not saying it isn't a possibility, I am just saying at this point in time, documentation does not suggest that is the way the family came to have that name.

Of course, we have a family story about why our Indian family came to have an Irish surname, but I do not base my genealogy on family stories, so I have put that aside and I depend on what I can find as evidence through documentation and other sources. And, of course, as sometimes the fact with any genealogical research, it has only served to drive me crazy or "mad". I often feel as if I am dancing around in a circle, and the answer is just out of my reach. The answer is there and I am close, but I just can't put my finger on it yet. UGH..............

What I know about this Cherokee Carey family and surname is IF you descend from anyone who was considered a full blood and a Cherokee Carey at the time of Dawes, then you are a descendant of Mike Carey and his wife, Nancy Tucker. There is no doubt about this. All evidence and documentation of these Careys leads back to those two people. There is a mixed blood Cherokee Carey line who got their surname from a white man, but there is no known connection between that family and mine.

I also know that all of the full blood Cherokee Careys originate, at least at the time of the Dawes Roll, from the 14 Mile Creek/Melvin/Lost City area in Oklahoma. The descendant lines may have moved around a bit, but the origins of their family came from those areas along 14 Mile Creek.

Mike Carey, the first I have found to have used the surname Carey, arrived in Indian Territory as part of one of the removal detachments. I don't know when he arrived or who he traveled with, but know he traveled the infamous "Trail of Tears" because he is listed on the 1852 Drennen Roll. By 1852, he was an adult with his own family, so I am not able to connect him with his parents through that roll. Per one of his children's Guion Miller applications, he was born in North Carolina. Though interesting and nice to know, that information has not yet allowed me to connect him to his parents and I don't know if it ever will. One child of his listed a paternal grandfather named Dick Ah-cawk on his Miller app, but that "name" offers little in solving the mystery of who the parents were of Mike Carey or how our surname came to be.

At this point in time, it seems Mike Carey might have been the first of my Cherokee ancestors in that line to have used the surname Carey, since this surname associated with my line of Careys seems to (going backward) stop with him. Some evidence I have found suggests his siblings took different surnames which were used by their descendants. This would mean I could have many collateral lines that have never been connected to my family yet. It also might give some evidence which would suggest this Cherokee Carey surname family story might be true. But, without further evidence or documenation, I am not ready to say that yet.

I just thought I would share a part of my genealogy research that is driving me "mad". Cherokee genealogy, like any other, is not always easy and we don't find the answers overnight, but with patience and thorough research, the truth can be found. And as lovely and as heartwarming as family stories can be, remember what they say - genealogy without proof is mythology! As interesting as my family story is and as easy as it would be to just accept it as true, it would be a disservice to my descendants to pass such information to them without some type of documentation or evidence to verify it.

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter

copyright 2009, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Thursday, November 12, 2009

Unusual For Who? Cherokee Family Names - 1904

Below is a list of Cherokee family names listed in a 1904 newspaper article. According to the article, the names are unusual, but in my opinion, that means they are unusual for whites, but not for Cherokees. I believe most who can prove they descend from the historical Cherokee Nation will find some, if not many, of these names in their ancestry or family tree. I have at least seven of these names in my family.

Acorn
Beanstick
Bearpaw
Birdchopper
Bullfrog
Buzzard
Buzzardflopper
Bean
Bearclaw
Bushyhead
Blackbird
Coon
Corntassel
Cornsilk
Cloud
Cricket
Candy
Carselowey
Duckwell
Deer-in-the-water
Dirteater
Dirtpot
Doublehead
Deerskin
Fox
Fivekiller
Featherhead
Fence
Falling
Fallingbuzzard
Gettingdown
Grapevine
Grass
Glory
Grease
Groundhog
Hogshooter
Hatchet
Hare
Hummingbird
Hitcher
Horsefly
Hawk
Heart
Kingfisher
Locust
Muskrat
Mouse
Mixedwater
Noisywater
Nakedhead
Oldfield
Pumpkin
Polecat
Pegg
Paun
Pidgeon
Rabbit
Redbird
Risingfawn
Rattlinggourd
Raven
Roastingear
Squirrel
Swimmer
Starr
Sevenstar
Soap
Sixkiller
Scarcewater
Soldier
Spoon
Springfrog
Sittingdown
Spade
Sweetwater
Trottingwolf
Terrapin
Treekiller
Trickeater
Tadpole
Tincup
Tail
Tehee
Tiger
Whirlwind
Walkingstick
Youngbird
Yellowbird

This is just a list I found in a newspaper article and thought I would share them. It is in no way a complete list of Cherokee family names.

Those are my thoughts for today,
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter

(Source - Lincoln Evening News; Lincoln, Nebraska; December 13, 1904; p. 3; "Queer Cherokee Names")
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Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Tombstone Tuesday - Meet Grandma Polly

Polly (U-da-yi) Vann Tadpole was born in Georgia, the daughter of Ave and Betsey (Scott) Vann, citizens of the Cherokee Nation. While still a toddler, in 1837, she relocated with her family from Georgia to Indian Territory before the forced removal of the Cherokees that came to be known as the Trail of Tears.

After growing to adulthood in Cherokee Nation, Indian Territory, Polly married Dul ho Downing in the Cherokee tradition and they had two children, Groundhog and Lizzie. Sadly, while serving with the Indian Home Guard, Kansas Infantry during the Civil War, Dul ho died from disease. About a year later, Polly married David Tadpole Jr. and they had three children; Tiger, Darkie and Rose. They also raised their niece, Jencie Tadpole, after her father died in the Civil War, and another orphan, John Swimmer.

Polly was left a widow for the second time when David died in March 1900. At this time, Polly was caring for her grand nephew, George Coffee, who was left an orphan when his mother, Jencie, died. She also raised two of her granddaughters, Ella and Nancy. Both girls had lost their mothers when they were very young.

Polly was listed on the Final Dawes Roll and received an allotment of land. At the time of the application, she was 68 years old. Later, she received a widow's pension for her husband's service during the Civil War. She died October 18, 1919 at approximately 84 years of age. By the end of her life, Polly had outlived both her parents, all 7 of her siblings, all three of her daughters, the niece she had raised and one of her sons. She was originally laid to rest in the family cemetery overlooking the home of her son, Tiger, but that cemetery was moved when the Corps of Engineers built Fort Gibson Dam. Now Polly rests in the new location of the Fisher Cemetery along with many of her family members and descendants.

**Note - The birth year on the stone appears to be wrong according to the documents where Polly reported her age and location of birth. She was most likely born in 1833 or 1834 instead of 1837.**

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter
copyright 2009, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tuesday, November 3, 2009

Wordless Wednesday - 59th Annual Keetoowah Cherokee Celebration


Photos copyright 2009, Coffee
Arrangement copyright 2009, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Tombstone Tuesday - Little Ben Fisher





Stone inscription:
Ben
Son of
J. & Sarah
Fisher
Born
Jan. 23, 1878
Died
Aug. 3, 1880







Ben was my great great grand uncle. He was the son of Johnson and Sarah (Woodward) Fisher, citizens of the Cherokee Nation. Even years after his death, he was fondly remembered by his mother as her "little Bennie".

Those are my thoughts for today.
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter
copyright 2009, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB

Monday, November 2, 2009

Currently Researching These Surnames

The Cherokee family names I am currently researching are Tucker, Keener (or Kenah), Birdchopper, Scott, Henson, Whitekiller, Shade and Cochran. These families were all from the Lost City/Melvin/Hulbert area at the time of the Dawes/Miller Rolls. Not all are related to each other and not all are related to me. If anyone is researching these family names and needs help, contact me and I will be glad to help if I can. Also, if anyone has information about these families they would like to share, that is always welcome!

Thank you.
Those are my thoughts for today.
Thank you for reading.

CC
The Granddaughter
copyright 2009, Polly's Granddaughter - TCB